Update
I will be posting the installment that focuses on a piece of critical evidence which I believe the location thereof is still at the park where the Sarah and Amina murders occurred and that piece of evidence will be discussed in detail. As soon as I get over a flu bug that is. I wanted to post that today but I am getting over a severe cold/flu bug. A good thing so now my anti-bodies are in place to protect me this winter and a flu shot is not required! :-)
If that piece of evidence is there, that would provide a clue as to where Yaser's general location is. I will explain in detail and will have images available at this blog on Friday.
I would like to make the comment threads welcome anyone who wants to discuss the possibilities as to where Yaser Said is and theories relative to any part of this murder. I will be inviting many people from around the world here to make comments.
I also am hoping that people can provide information that can definitively tie other members of the Said family to the murder of Sarah and Amina. The statute of limitations is unlimited when it comes to murder in Texas. The punishment is appropriately severe. I want to see those closest to Sarah and Amina who played key roles in facilitating their murders punished to the fullest extent as allowed under statutory laws of Texas and the United States applicable to felonies such as this.
If any of those people come here to comment, I suggest they seek legal council first, because what they say here will be used aggresively to secure their conviction.
19 comments:
I hope this works RG! I will send out the link however Atlas "Pamela" myself at Razorsharp claws have posted and we bring it up now and then.
Seems the masque is keeping hush hush! Just like with 9-11!!!
It's like in Chicago... The saying goes:
Everybody knows everything and nobody knows nothing.
I think that the son is complicit, but that's conjecture. I'll follow the comments with interest.
BTW, I think that the killer is in the middle east by now.
Hello there! How awful. This is terrible. It's unbelievable that these crimes still happen. Good on you for bringing it to the attention of bloggers around the world!
Having read the comments on the previous post, however, I feel compelled to point out that allowing racist comments on your blog will not help in catching Yaser.
I'm white, Christian from the UK and I live in Egypt because of my partner's (white, Christian) job and I can ASSURE you and your readers that not all Muslims agree with this sort of behaviour. Far from it.
I am also NOT a liberal.
I do not deny that SOME Muslims agree with honor killings, that fundamentalists exist and should be fought, but not all Muslims, not all women who wear a headscarf, are fundamentalists and not all Muslims , by any stretch of the imagination, agree with honor killings. Just as not all Irish Christians were/are members of the IRA. Allowing comments like: 'They can take their pushy little culture and shove it up their ass!' and 'The whole f-up musilim community!!!' will not help find the killer.
Is it not more important to find this Yaser guy, than to make the blog a place for people to vent their (underinformed) frustrations about 1.4 BILLION people?
Imagine an American killed someone in the UK. You visit a blog about it and instead of finding comments about how awful the murder and murderer were, there are comments ALLOWED BY THE BLOGGER about how Americans are all murderers, all Americans would allow another American to commit murder and should all be prosecuted.
It wouldn't make sense, right? Not all Americans are murderers just because one American kills. Not all Christians are murderers because one Christian kills. It would make you (it sure would me) mightily angry to read comments like that.
Bringing this awful case to the attention of people overseas is so important if the guy has fled the US, but if you genuinely want people to come forward and offer information, offensive comments will not encourage them to do so.
"Imagine an American killed someone in the UK. You visit a blog about it and instead of finding comments about how awful the murder and murderer were, there are comments ALLOWED BY THE BLOGGER about how Americans are all murderers, all Americans would allow another American to commit murder and should all be prosecuted." trailinggrouse.
One, we already do.
There was a situation in Okinawa where an idiot raped a young girl, the perp is doing life. The case is being used against all Americans in the effort to rid the island of troops that are supposed to protect the population. Visit David's Medienkritik for the love being poured on us from Germany and No Pasaran for the same from France.
Two, we see no active involvement, in the muslim world, against those who are doing the killing. When I see dancing in the streets because of some harm that befalls an American I have a tendency to start looking for indications that say that not everyone believes that way. When all I encounter is silence I assume that, if nothing else, tacit support is being given to the purveyors of terror. If you have evidence that is contrary to that empirical view perhaps you should bring it out so it can be balanced against what we are seeing.
Finally, France, in the aggregate, hates the U.S., the muslims in France are battling the police and occasional civilians of France. Why aren't the muslims claiming common cause with the French? Perhaps jihad is involved? The same question could be asked of Sweden. And Denmark where the no-go ghettos are thriving and Sharia has already been established, where are the voices, in the muslim world, who are outraged and in support of western values? Have you been keeping up with the travails of the Copts in the country of your residence? How seriously were the killers punished?
trailinggrouse,
Thank you for your perspective. I am glad you are commenting here as you are one of the people from around the world that I have invited. I understand you are from Egypt where Yaser may be located. We hope you can help us find this murderer.
However, amongst people who will be commenting here, there will be agreements and disagreements amongst us. And that will be normal for there will be a very diverse group of people here and everyone will be encouraged to submit their perspectives.
As Mike H. has pointed out, there ARE wide spread blanket condemnations against Americans by others around the world. Not just Muslims but by other societies as well.
If I may, one thing that I want to voice a position that I hold that is in contradiction to yours and many other people around the world is that Islam is a race. I, and many others in America do not consider Islam a race neither do I consider voicing critical opinion of Islam as racism. We believe race pertains to physical characteristic of people inherited from their parents. And to condemn a person solely in regards to those physical characteristics that they inherited from their parents IS racism. Yet Islam has succeeded in convincing many people around the world that Muslims are a race and by having convinced many people around the world that Muslims are a race, they have now gained added advantage in trying to silence critics of Islam in those areas around the world.
However, here in Texas, Islam is not viewed as a race. People who wish to abandon Islam may do so, yet one who wants to rid him or herself of a physical characteristic inherited from a parent cannot do so. Islam is a religion, an economic system, a theocracy that also has a military component.
When Sarah and Amina chose to not be Muslim even though their parents are Muslim, they had that right in America. And they are not viewed as racists in America for wishing to not follow Islam.
So, was Yaser a racist for killing them? No. He was not being a racist either. He was doing what some Muslims believe is right. Especially the Salafi/Whahabi Muslim which is the practice that I believe he follows. Destroying decedents who conscientiously refused to follow Islam.
One thing for sure, Yaser must be brought to justice for as we all agree, what he did was terrible. Any help you can provide in locating him in Egypt would be tremendously appreciated. And there is a reward for that help.
Mike H.,
His son and the mother are both complicit. There ARE criminal statutes that both of them are in violation of and the authorities, having refused to act on those statutes have put them selves at odds with the law as well. I plan to spell out those statutes, both state and federal and demand those statutes be acted upon. Even holding the local authorities accountable to federal authorities for not having acted.
ALL
I just returned from DFW International Airport with some interesting information. Stay tuned folks.
Entering idle mode...wait state commencing......now. ;)
I don't care if your f-ing green!
The problem is MUSLIMS! IT'S a CULT of MURDERING THUGS THAT STICK UP FOR EACHOTHER!
IT ISN'T ABOUT RACE YOU F-ing MORONS!!!
GOD RG MODERATE!
What she means is: A message from Satan! THEY ARE GOING DOWN!
The title said it all!
dcat take life easy, I'm the one that's moderate, rg is the conservative. :D
dcat, "What she means is: A message from Satan!"
Obviously it helps to be crazy there too. :D
I am a conservative that doesn't put up with FAT HEADS!!! I don't have to get along with muslims! THAT IS MY RELIGION!
Want to join! It's easy just don't give them a voice!
After all they want to shut all of us up! WORSE IS THEY WANT US ALL DEAD!!!
Did anyone else notice Youtube taking videos off again!!! OH YEAH! WE KNOW WHAT SIDE THEY ARE ON! THE THUGS!!!
I prefer to leave the comments so folks can get feedback from other commenters...
;-)
Still fighting the flu bug. Back in action shortly.
Ok guys, I take the point about the difference between racism and, well, religionism (whatever it's called!).
As for Mike H's point 1. The case is being used for political ends. It's more than likely that not everyone in Okinawa hates Americans, they just want the US off their soil. How many foreign military bases are there on US soil? I mean full military bases, not Norad or the German Air Defense School, both of which are run together with US branches of the military.
Point 2. You're absolutely right that you see partying in the streets. Dead right. But you know what? The millions and millions of people who are NOT dancing on the streets do not make very good TV.
I have lived in this part of the world for seven years straight and have worked previously in other parts of the Middle East. At no point have I EVER seen rejoicing in the streets when a US citizen was injured or killed. Ever. I have seen it on TV though, so I know that it happens. It is NOT the common reaction.
The reason you don't see someone standing up and speaking out against this abhorrent behaviour is this: the majority of people just want to live their lives. Long before the economic crisis we are now facing, people in the Middle East were fighting to survive. People are living on under two dollars a day. Millions of people. For the most part, they spend their time looking for ways to feed their family. If an American is killed, or a French, or a Japanese, or an Outer Mongolian, they really couldn't care, they're too busy trying to get by.
Those who do have enough money to get by just want to live a quiet life. They want to celebrate their children's marriages, grand children's births, job promotions, they want to watch TV and relax after a hard day at work, help kids with homework, get through the long commute to work. Really normal things. They hate what the radicals are doing to the name of their religion, but they don't want to get involved. Their silence, while seen by many as tacit agreement, is not.
Of course, there are some nutters that don't think like that, but there are nutters in the UK and the US who behave stupidly as well: they are not the majority, but they do get far more time on TV news reporting than the average Joe does.
Point 3. I have to outright disagree with 'France in the aggregate hates the US'. They might think Americans are uncultured, as they think we in the UK are, they might be guilty of arrogance, but they absolutely don't hate the US. Most of them would jump at a chance of going there. I know this personally because I have friends and family who are French and I have spent a fair amount of time in France.
I totally agree on the problems the French have with the Muslims there though. There is no jihad involved. Even if some claim there is. The issue of religion is misused, however. The French State has (in my opinion) a good and clear strategy to deal with religion. The French State is secular. Therefore no religious clothing or symbols are allowed to be on show in government schools and workplaces. This means if you want to wear a cross on your necklace you are free to do so, as long as it remains under your clothes. Muslims are upset because their religious clothing is on show and they feel discriminated. As France has always had this kind of line of thinking, they are right in sending fanatics back to their country of origins and should perhaps do it a bit more.
As for the voices in support of Western values, I'm not sure why we should expect to hear any from the Muslim world. Just as Muslims are not a race, the Muslim world is not a geographical location in the way The West is.
As for the Copts, I am unfortunately all too aware of the situation. Being where I am, I can hear personal accounts, but I have no access to most of the sites as they are banned here.
I must stress that I do not agree with many things in the Middle East. Many. I do, however, believe that if we tar the people of one religion with the same brush (and the majority of the Middle East are, these days, Muslim) we are edging towards the guiding principles of a certain infamous German and that helps nobody. I think this on our side looking at the Muslims and from their side looking at us.
I absolutely understand that not everybody thinks the same way as I do, but as someone who has direct experience of living amongst a community for a number of years, I can't sit quiet when I hear blatant untruths.
On a final note. I did not realise why these girls were killed when I wrote my original post. The reason that the Muslim community would not stand up to this is because anybody who agreed with the girls' freedom to choose their own religion, could easily face the same fate. It is clearly written in their religious texts that conversion into the religion is allowed, but not out. What differs is Believers' interpretations of what to do with converters out. That is not to excuse the silence, merely to explain that if someone were to speak out, they could easily be threatened with death.
A question, if they are allowed by your statement "As for the voices in support of Western values, I'm not sure why we should expect to hear any from the Muslim world." to have no concern for us, in the face of attack by members of their society (or culture), then why are you so aggravated by our lack of concern for theirs. You give them a pass and condemn us.
You say also, "As for the Copts, I am unfortunately all too aware of the situation. Being where I am, I can hear personal accounts, but I have no access to most of the sites as they are banned here.", and yet you make a defense of the religious legal system that bans them? You make a defense of the religious legal system that lets the perpetrators of the crimes off with a lite sentence?
We have a saying here about that. We talk about the "bigotry of low expectations" and if you examine your viewpoint you'll see that we're held to standards that your fellow residents aren't. We on the one hand are castigated for "Is it not more important to find this Yaser guy, than to make the blog a place for people to vent their (underinformed) frustrations about 1.4 BILLION people?" while those in the religion are given a pass with "What differs is Believers' interpretations of what to do with converters out. That is not to excuse the silence, merely to explain that if someone were to speak out, they could easily be threatened with death." This statement is made with, hopefully, the full knowledge that the US has the highest rate of muslim to christian conversion in the western world. I won't make the comparison for China or other places, but we prosecute if threats are made. Sharia hasn't been established here, so one would think that the fear factor wouldn't be in effect here. Yet the silence is deafening. The backlash is happening because of the silence not in spite of it.
Finally, your own country is one that you should consider. The police now coordinate all actions concerning muslims with a muslim council specifically set up for this function. If the sensibilities of the suspect conflict with the furtherance of the necessary police investigation does the suspect go free? If a muslim man beats his wife severely does he get a pass because it's allowed under sharia? Sharia is after all the law that muslims are required to follow, is it not? Why should any religious sensibilities be taken into consideration?
My last question is, if, as they are fond of telling us that the war against the west (Dar al-Harb) will not stop until all peoples are in Dar al Islam, why the hell should I sit and wait? Why should I accept Dhimmi status? That is as stupid as waiting for that un-named individual that you referenced from WWII.
You might ask yourself, if it takes two to make war and you want to avoid it by talking one side out of it why not do the talking to them? If, as you say, they don't feel a need to see our side then I feel you have your answer.
:+: That's telling em MIKE H! YEAH!
Lol. I feel that this could go on forever.
As I said, I do NOT like many things about the systems over here, be they governmental, religious etc. The thing is, from the seat that I'm sitting in, I have to be careful what I say. Unfortunately. If I were blogging from a different country, perhaps I would feel different about being more explicit.
Secondly, I do not need to tell you, i.e. someone in the West the virtues of the West. You live there and know them. Most people reading this blog, I suspect, also know. I am giving the other side. If you Muslim, living in the Middle East and talking about how bad The West is, how bad Christians are, I would be talking about different things entirely.
I don't expect to hear anything from the Muslim world in support of us, the West under attack because they have not seen anything supporting them, the Muslim world. If we are going to group The West and the Middle East, then they feel under attack, and indeed have been under attack for years. We have not successfully stopped it.
I do not condemn us and give them a pass, I merely expect us to be 'bigger'. To turn the other cheek and lead by example, rather than taking and eye for an eye.
I am also certainly not defending any religious legal system as I do not personally believe that the State and Religion should be mixed. Just because I outline it from a side we may not like, but from a side that many, many people see it, does not mean I agree. It merely means that in the years of living here, I've allowed myself to learn something about the place I am in. I definitely don't agree with it however.
Again, with explaining why people might not speak up. I do not think that it is acceptable. Especially from people living in the USA: they chose to live in a free society, to get away from the countries where fear rules and they should take some responsibility for keeping fear out of their community's lives. That's what I believe. What I know, however, is that it's human nature to protect our lives and those of our families. My explanation was merely to point that out. Not to say that these people have no responsibility in changing things within their community.
As for the silence, it doesn't matter if Sharia has been established or not. If you are Muslim, you also believe, to differing degrees the sharia. It's not exactly the same, but similar to Christians and tithes. Most people know that they should give 10% of their wealth to charity, but how many actually do? I.e. just because we follow a certain religion, doesn't mean we all follow it in exactly the same way.
As for my own country. I do not agree with the way things are working there. I look at it the other way: if I lived in Saudi Arabia, would they allow me a different law because I'm foreign and Christian? Quite obviously they don't. Therefore I don't believe that in the UK there should be two laws. People are free to believe what they want, but if they choose to live in a different country then they have to accept that country's laws, not establish a secondary legal system. If people want to live by Sharia, there are countries in the world that will support that lifestyle and they should be there.
Your last point, as with your point about the backlash happening because of a lack of voices in the Muslim world speaking out against their own, seems to assume that 1.4 billion people all think the same. In the sentence, "..if, as they are fond of telling us that the war against the west (Dar al-Harb) will not stop until all peoples are in Dar al Islam, why the hell should I sit and wait?" the word 'they' was replaced with 'fundamentalists' I would agree. The thing is that not all Muslims are waging war against us, not all Muslims want us to convert to Islam or die. It's only the Muslim fundamentalists who are like that. The moderates just want us all to live together in peace and if we choose to convert, then fine, if we choose not to, then fine also.
As I've touched on before, there are many, many moderates at work within our own communities. If we choose to paint them as fundamentalists and castigate them purely because OUR expectations of Muslims is that they are all fundamentalist nutters out to destroy our culture/way of life, we will alienate them. While it would most certainly help if more people could know that the moderates do not agree with the fundamentalists, they usually people who would see themselves as American/British/Whatever first and Muslim second. Often they left their country so they could live in a country where their religion is not in their face everyday, so to start standing up and saying, "Hey guys, I'm Muslim, I don't agree with the fundamentalists" would be to define themselves by the very thing they are trying to have as secondary in their lives.
Anyway, my bottom line is that I do not support 'them' more than 'us'. I think the situation is far more complex and we cannot tar everyone with the same brush. I'm from Scotland. Scots are renowned as being stingy. Should I introduce myself as TG, the Scot who isn't stingy? No, I'll just let you find that out. If you leave before you can find out, because you don't like stingy people and I'm Scottish, so must be stingy, then I see it as your loss, not mine. There are moderate Muslims out there, they are not out to attack 'us'. If we see them all as fundamentalist because some Muslims are, then that is ultimately our loss. Again, that does not mean I support harsh religious legal systems, dictators or fundamentalists. It just means I don't see 1.4 billion people as bad because they worship differently to me.
And for your final point, I do do the talking to them as well. I do it in much the same manner as here: trying to be logical, inoffensive and pointing things out that may not be immediately obvious to someone who has had limited contact with The West. Interestingly, the few people who start off saying, "I hate America." change it to "The American people and the American government are different. I don't like the American government, but the people are just like us, going to work, eating, sleeping, taking care of their kids, watching TV and dreaming of their next holiday."
Is there really such a difference between us all?
Whatever!
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